ETF又遇冷,你不得不知道的审核内幕!



  • 'No Reason to Not Allow' the Bitcoin ETF to Go Ahead — Says SEC Commissioner
    没理由不通过比特币交易所交易基金(ETF)-美国证券交易委员会(SEC)委员

    Reddit网友讨论:
    *says 1 of the 4 SEC commissioners, while the other 3 are opposed
    四个委员里只有一个这样说,其他三个都反对ETF。
    The reason for the other three rejecting the Winklevoss Twins ETF was that they were going to use their own exchange for the price.
    其他三名委员想用自己交易所的价格作为定价,这才是Winklevoss ETF被拒绝的真正原因。
    -"The main focus of the SEC is investor protection," Nurov said. He noted that the Gemini ETF share price was entirely dependent on the bitcoin price on Gemini's own exchange.
    -“SEC主要关注点在于对投资者的保护,”委员表示。他发现Gemini ETF的价格完全取决于Gemini旗下交易所比特币的价格。
    -They gave a 92 page decision, you think it really came down to one sentence as to why it was rejected? They said Bitcoin prices can be easily manipulated. Not just because they would use Gemini prices.
    委员会公开了一份92页的决定,你觉得就是因为这一句话导致ETF没能通过?他们认为比特币的价格容易被操控,这才是重点。并非仅仅因为使用了Gemini的价格。
    -" Bitcoin prices can be easily manipulated " That means upcoming ETF applications will get rejected as well
    “比特币价格容易被操控” 也就是说之后所有的ETF申请也都会被这个理由拒绝了
    -Etf might get approved next year, I think it’s still a bit too early.
    ETF明年就会过审的,我觉得现在还是有点儿为时过早。
    -what'll be different next year? do you reckon the time of insane price swings and market manipulation is over?
    那又怎样?难道你觉得明年比特币价格就不会大起大落,市场就不会被人操控了吗?
    -ETF won't get approved until after 2020.
    ETF在2020年之前都不会被批准。

    Can we just say the deciders making the decisions won't change until they can benefit. That's it. You can write a 200pg doc that explains why- but if have one alternative motive then who cares what hypothetical problems they can list.
    这么说吧,除非能从决策中受益,不然这些决策者是不会轻易做决定的,这就是事实。每个人都能写一份200页的文档,解释具体原因。但是一旦有了切实需求,谁还会去关心那些假设?

    Bitcoin doesn’t need a damn ETF. Stop trying to pump your own fucking bags. If you are in it for the tech. The ETF is meaningless. It doesn’t change anything about bitcoin fundamentally. EU already has similar products like ETF and it does nothing.
    比特币根本不需要什么ETF!别就想着赚钱了。你们买比特币是为了技术,ETF根本毫无意义,不会对比特币造成任何本质上的改变。欧盟早就有类似的ETF产品了,然而并没有什么用。
    -Btc wont replace fiat anytime soon mate and btc is both a store of value and currency so a ETF is a very legitimate way for investors to put their money into it just like gold. Stop with your “in it for the tech” bs. 100% of people who invest money are in it for the money otherwise why invest?
    短期来看,比特币不会取代法币,但比特币和货币都有价值储藏的功能。所以对投资人来说,ETF代表着合法化,这样他们就能像投资黄金一样安心投资比特币了。别在说你那套“为了技术投资比特币”的理论了。人们投资比特币就是为了赚钱,不然还投什么资?
    -Until a large portion of the public have a positive view of Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency in general, businesses won't implement, because if people won't utilize the form of payment, it's worthless. The public recognizes certain authorities (Such as the SEC) as able to legitimize currencies, investments, etc., so until we start getting big money in, the majority of the public will not invest in crypto, meaning implementation will be minor, and the goal of crypto will not be complete. The majority of the public, wont give a shit about the tech. and take a risk with their money and livelihood until they are convinced it is legitimate.
    只有公众对比特币还有币圈形成了一种正面的看法,整个生态才会完备。如果人们不用加密货币进行支付,那币就是没价值的。在公众眼里,权威机构(比如SEC)有能力将加密货币以及相关投资合法化。也就是说,在大额资金进场之前,大部分人是不会投资加密货币的。也就意味着生态还没有形成,也就无法打成加密货币的目标。其实大部分人并不关心技术,在整个币圈合法化之前,人们是不会冒着倾家荡产的风险进行投资的。
    -Stop pretending that there's people who are just in it for the tech.
    There's literally nothing tech related about holding bitcoin. It's a speculative investment.
    The only people who could claim it's just for the tech are those who aren't holding anything and are actively developing the space.
    人们不会因为技术投资币圈的,别自欺欺人了。
    持有比特币和技术一点关系都没有,就是投机。
    真正为了技术的人,并不会持币,而是一直积极为生态做事,这些人才能自称技术狂人。
    Very misleading headline
    标题党
    -like every title in this sub
    其他话题也一样

    No reason not to allow moon.
    没理由不大涨一波
    No reason to not lynch writers that use double-negatives.
    没理由不好好教训一下这些喜欢用双重否定的写手

    So the SEC commissioner is the sole decision maker? Sounds like it’s a group decision or something.
    所以SEC就是一言堂?听起来有一个小组投票之类的过程。
    -There is 4 commissioners, similar to Supreme Court Justice as there isn’t just one
    SEC一共有4名委员,类似于最高法院法官,所以并不是靠一个人决定的
    Jerking away, are we?
    老铁,赶紧下车了。